Episode 176 · Deep tech · 13 min

Deep tech needs different rules

IIT Madras and Unicorn India Ventures have closed ₹450 crore of a deep tech fund of up to ₹1,000 crore, with a window into the institute's labs. Bhaskar Majumdar on valuing companies with no cash flow, hiring PhDs over MBAs, and investing outside the big three metros.

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Bhaskar Majumdar
Managing Partner, Unicorn India Ventures · with Shreyas Mishra
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The brief

The argument in sixty seconds

No VC writes deep tech's first cheque: a space or chip startup needs costly equipment before it has a product. So its founders are either veterans funding themselves or researchers inside institutes that own the kit. IITM Unicorn Frontier Fund I is built to reach the second group early — it invests across India, with sight of IIT Madras labs before their research becomes companies. Majumdar's rules follow: back domain knowledge, not a felt pain point; price on technical milestones, not cash flows; invest where other VCs are not; staff the firm with PhDs; raise from LPs who can wait 12 years.

The rules, drawn

Six charts, thirteen minutes

Fund figures come from the first-close announcement and the fund's launch release; everything else is as said on air. Click ▶ to hear it.

The fund at first close

₹ crore · first-close announcement, 26 September 2026
Size
₹450 Cr first close₹600 Cr base₹1,000 Cr+₹400 Cr greenshoe₹55 Cr committedalumni ₹150 Cr+
How the corpus is used
first cheques 20–25%follow-onsback the winnersmay rise to 30%
First four cheques · ₹55 Cr
Space tech
Hathor
Semi-cryogenic and cryogenic rocket engines
Quantum
Quanastra
Single-photon detection systems
Batteries
Triolt Energy
Lithium-ion cells for drones and fast-charging e-mobility
Carbon capture
Carbelim
Microalgae-based carbon capture and air purification
From IIT Madras, IIT Madras Research Park and Unicorn India Ventures. First cheques average ₹8–10 crore. On air they take 20–25% of the corpus — "the 25 might increase to 30"; the fund's launch release puts about 60% into building the portfolio.▶ 2:09▶ 7:33▶ 10:39

The first cheque nobody writes

who funds deep tech before there is proof
Kit before proofzero-gravity rigs, chip toolkitsno VC: too earlyVeteran founderslate 50s, self-fundedInstitutesthat own the setupsThis fund· sees labs, faculty, scholars before incubation· invests all-India· portfolio gets IIT Madras faculty
He expects more deep tech startups to come out of institutes of excellence. IIT Madras alumni joined as LPs: money "is one part of it, but the knowledge that they bring into the fund is very deep".▶ 1:16▶ 1:44▶ 2:21

Go where the VCs aren't

● portfolio city named on air  ○ big three metros (the other third)
Delhi NCRMumbaiBengaluruJaipurAhmedabadIndorePatnaBhubaneswarPuneHyderabadChennaiKochiTrivandrumrobotics, Keraladrones2/3of investments sitoutside the big three
Two-thirds of investments sit outside the three metros, his figure. Metro founders chased the "flavour of the month"; tier-2 cities did long-term engineering. Fewer VCs mean better entry prices. Map shows boundaries as recognised by India.▶ 5:40▶ 6:35▶ 7:15

Price milestones, not cash flows

one chip startup's valuation, ₹ crore
₹100 Cr₹650–680 Crbefore9 months later6.5–6.8×as the chip nearedtape-outa launch does thesame in space tech
With no cash flow, DCF has nothing to discount; value jumps at milestones — tape-out for chips, a launch for space tech. His auditors "just couldn't understand", so he walked them through the TRL cycle.▶ 3:50▶ 9:56▶ 10:20

Raise from LPs who can wait

fund life, years
fund life 10–12 yearsLPs used to panic at 7024681012some LPs now: “why exit now?”+ larger family offices, institutions− smaller tickets (need liquidity)
LPs once panicked at a seven-year cycle; now some ask why the firm exits a company just as it matures. Smaller tickets, he believes, face more pressure for liquidity — so this fund focused on larger family offices and institutions.▶ 11:50▶ 12:05▶ 12:29

Two ecosystems, two DNAs

deep tech against consumer internet, as he draws the line
Consumer internet
Deep tech
Starts from
▶ 1:05
A room — as Flipkart did
Zero-gravity rigs, chip toolkits
Founder signal
▶ 4:11
Lived the pain point
Research or working knowledge, pedigree
Analyst bench
▶ 9:05
Young engineers, MBAs from consulting and banks
PhDs with domain expertise
Founder DNA, VC DNA, go-to-market and exits all differ, he says. The standard analyst route is "very good for fintech, consumer internet businesses"; for deep tech the firm now recruits PhDs.▶ 8:36▶ 9:34
Worth keeping

Lines that stay

Deep tech, unlike the other areas, is not a gut-feel business.

Bhaskar Majumdar ▶ 0:17

Now you don't even know where the players are coming from.

Bhaskar Majumdar, on Indian cricket and Indian startups ▶ 6:08
Chapters

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Glossary

The jargon, unpacked

Greenshoe
An option to raise more than a fund's base size if demand allows.
LP
Limited partner: an investor in the fund (family office, institution, alumnus), as opposed to the firm that manages it.
DCF
Discounted cash flow: valuing a company by the present value of its expected future cash flows.
TRL
Technology readiness level: a scale from 1 (basic research) to 9 (proven in operation). The fund targets companies at TRL 3–4.
Tape-out
The moment a chip design is finalised and sent to the fab for manufacture.
Connections

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